Just Say “Non” to Burkini Bathing Beauties?


August 28, 2016 by gregrabidoux2013

Burkini ban beach

The summer the Burkini swept its way across beaches everywhere

Ah, summer.


Barbecues. Burgers. Beach.

And, apparently, Burkinis.

Sacre bleu, What?

You know, Burkinis, the combination Burqa and Bikini that is sweeping French beaches and is now being exported right here in the US of A.

Okay, let’s fill in a few bathing beauty gaps here.

Several cities in France, including Nice, have passed local laws banning Burkinis. For the uninitiated, these are essentially full head to ankle clothing with only part of the face visible that women, predominantly, Muslim women, wear to go swimming. To public beaches and pools. From their perspective, they are being faithful to their faith (in nearly all sects of Islamic religion, women must remain nearly fully covered up in public and swimming, especially swimming that traditionally calls for people to shed clothes, is no exception.

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Is it refreshing though? IDK, is taking a  shower fully clothed refreshing?


From the French local authorities perspective, jumping in beach or pool water fully clothed is not hygienic. Hence, the ban.

Now, former French president Nicolas Sarkozy and candidate is calling for a national ban on all Burkinis across France. Supporters also point out that the Burkini is nothing more than “age old sexism and oppression of women in a modern day garb.”

burkini ban 1920

It’s not like this is a totally new issue.


His chief rival, Alain Juppe, calls such bans an attack on Muslims and at its core, a from of racism. His supporters that ay such ban is just an excuse to attack the Muslim religion and culture.

With France, and of course Belgium, Germany, Turkey and honestly, nearly all of Europe reeling from recent ISIS directed or ISIS inspired terrorist attacks and past Muslim-French officials tensions over religious grab like the Hijabs (full-face veils) and Jewish Kippas (Yarmulkes or skull-caps), this Burkini ban is no trivial matter.

Recently, the high French Court (and I mean that as in rank not their judicial mindset, at least as far as I know) ruled that these local bans are unconstitutional. However, new wording in a proposed national ban could pass legal muster.

Does any of this matter to any of us here in the US?

Well. Maybe. But it should even if it doesn’t now.

Religion and non-secular civilian life has always involved compromise in the land of the First Amendment. Religion and worship good, sacrificing animals or humans bad. Wearing religious garb and head-wear okay, if it creates a hazard or flouts military required uniform code then bad.

And very recently, the Burkini has made its way to our shores. Several areas, including Indiana is now scrambling to address what it calls a “public hygiene nuisance” at local, community pools.

Yet, activists against any such ban are quick to warn that any law that constrains Muslim religious practice may inflame a community and portions of that community that tend to use violence and terrorism when inflamed.

In other words, ban the Burkini at your and your fellow beachgoer and pool-swimmer’s own peril.

burkini ban single woman

Burkini makers say that since they came in colors sales have gone up. Henry Ford would be proud.


I thought of this still largely French issue the other day when I made my way to a community pool near where I live. As a resident of the area I have my pool pass and so can swim to my heart’s content as can other residents. Of any and all or no religious persuasion.

On this particular day as I did my best Michael Phelps impression and came up for air after a lap I noticed 2 Indian women fully dressed in complete traditional Indian grab from head to toe enter the pool. My first thought was “Gee, is it laundry day at the pool or what?” My next thought was “Oh, yeah, this is yet another reason I normally avoid community pools.” And then my final thought was “I wonder, is this religious, convenience or maybe, their version of the Burkini?”

I did check with the manager afterwards if they had any policy about swimmers essentially swimming completely and fully clothed for whatever reason. The response was pretty much “I don’t know. We don’t really have a policy but we don’t want to anger anyone.”

Now, look, anyone who has ever swum at the beach or any public pool knows that between babies, kids, people who never bathe or shower before they jump in and animals, especially dogs whose owners always think it’s cute when they let them in the water and people who figure the “chlorine will fix anything” swimming in a pool is just darned hazardous.


Infants and Burkini alert.

Sharing your swim lane with a fully clothed Burkini Beauty may just be one more factor to weigh before plunging in the deep end.

Yet, this does feel different doesn’t it?

I respect that the swimmer next to me worships in a far different way than I but still, it just seems to me that the whole point of going to the beach or the pool is to put a little space between you and your rather warm and constraining clothes. Especially, in the blazing August sun. Of course, some supporters of the Burkini Ban are also pushing for a ban on what they call “shameful bathers” or in other words folks that they think should maybe not shed their clothes.

burkini ban fat dude

The French want this super-sized fella to zip it all up in a super-sized Burkini


I’m not ready to go that far.

But that might just be me.

One thing’s for sure-Aheda Zanetti, the inventor of the Burkini is laughing all the way to her Swiss Bank Account as sales of her Burkini continue to skyrocket.

burkini ban inventor

The inventor of a Burkini sizes up a Burkini model for a promo. shoot. She’s the one sorta smiling.


See ya at the pool. And, hey, I don’t want to be a “Burquaphobe” but I will

be the one trying to decide if it’s safe or not to take the plunge.

And please keep the dogs at home. I got enough to deal with already.












38 thoughts on “Just Say “Non” to Burkini Bathing Beauties?

  1. Mara L says:

    It seems to me that women keep getting more and more repressed by the moment. Islam extremism is rampant and women and women’s bodies have always been portrayed as shameful and creators of evil thoughts and actions. If women’s bodies are so disgusting, how come they create beautiful life? We are in the 21st century is time to free women all over the world of this nonsense sexist treatment. Compare the pictures of Iran’s Olympic team in 1966 and in 2016, something is wrong with those pictures!

    • Amy W says:

      Yes, the 0ne on the right (2016) is in the wrong. I agree it seems women are being repressed more than ever before. And the Burkini is just a symbol of repression to me!

    • junior jackson says:

      There is not unhygienic about being fully clothes when entering a pool or the ocean. People don’t it often, especially heavy set individuals who don’t like showing off their bobby -I use to experience that same feeling when I was overweight. I don’t see the burkini being a real problem, this is just government overreaching and putting place laws that express their xenophobia.

  2. Kyle Rudrow says:

    I know several Muslim women who sport the burkini and are anything but repressed. However, that is in the US. Countries, including Iran and Saudi Arabia, continue to oppress women. And unfortunately, traditional Muslim garbs have come to represent and symbolize oppression in the West. Particularly at a time when Islamophobia, fueled by groups like ISIL, is on the rise. Now, as somebody who holds little religious beliefs, it does not bother me at all to see a liberalization of religious customs, including what people wear. I’m an individualist, and like to see people wearing things that represent their own individuality. But either we are a country of religious freedom and liberty or we’re not. I prefer to live and let live, so long as some else’s actions do not infringe on the rights of others.

    • Alicia H says:

      ok, but wearing all your clothes in a public pool does infringe on my rights to be able to swim and not have to be next to someone doing their laundry while still in their clothes. That’s gross. And if you think women are expressing their individuality by being required by men at risk of death to be fully covered as part of being made to be ashamed of their bodies then you know nothing about society and women being oppressed.

      • Kyle Rudrow says:

        Alicia, I think you misunderstand what a “burkini,” or burqini actually is. It is a swimsuit, made of the same type of material as a regular bikini or any other swimsuit. Unless, you believe regular bikinis, bathing suit, swimming trucks, or a full body swimsuit for scuba diving is unsanitary, there is little to no difference. Or perhaps you prefer everybody to swim nude? I made clear my indifference on what people wear to the beach. I’m not the fashion police. And forcing someone not to wear something sounds just as Orwellian as forcing them to do so. It is just a piece of cloth or fabric. If you read my post, I made clear that religious-based oppression against women does exist in some Muslim countries, but generally it is not happening in the US. I know single Muslim women who wear burkinsi and have no fear of men or are ashamed of their bodies.

      • Bethany R says:

        So, Kyle based upon your apparent keen Burkini expertise it is just a fabric and then you make the false argument about us wanting to see bathers or swimmers swim nude. Are you all there? You either are trying to miss the point many here are making or you are incapable of seeing it. Enjoy swimming with all those single, Muslim burkini wearing women in Valdosta GA you apparently know while you remain indifferent or ignorant of the bigger picture.

    • Mara L. says:

      These women are not wearing all those clothes to express their individuality, they don’t have a choice. Have you heard of stoning or lapidation? well, women are stoned to death for the mere reason of being accused of adultery, which in Arab countries if you are a victim of rape you are an adulterer. Women are accused of all the perverse actions incurred by men. Women don’t have any laws that defend them, they have to obey what their men tell them or they’ll lose their life. And the Burkini is not a fashion choice!

      • Kyle Rudrow says:

        Mara, can you read minds? Because otherwise you are making sweeping generalizations about individuality. I am well aware of stoning and the religious-based oppression of women in some Muslim countries. But there is no stoning of women taking place in the US. The blog post is clearly referring to laws in the US and Europe, and so was my response. As I mentioned to Alicia, I know single Muslim women who have no men even in their lives, who wear burkinis, and are not ashamed of their body or afraid of being stoned in Valdosta. Interestingly enough, they are afraid of a different type of oppression, acts of violence, and hatred, particularly in the Deep South. Individuals should not let their fear, misconceptions, and ethnocentrism shape their view of entire groups of people.

    • Amy G says:

      You know several single Muslim women who wear a Burkini, wow, that is quite a coincidence and all in little old Valdosta. Not buying it. Several women have made the very legitimate point about Burkinis and the oppression it does represent across the globe including Europe and yet you blather on about individuality and liberty. And as far as asking the other gal (Mara) if she can read minds that’s just being arrogant. You sound like you know nothing of what women across the globe endure so keep your silly ethnocentristic labels to yourself it is out of place here as are your viewpoints.

      • Kyle Rudrow says:

        Yes, Amy, Valdosta has Muslims. I understand that might be a surprise to you. In addition, Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest contributors of foreign exchanged students at VSU. I encourage you to meet with and get to know these individuals and other Muslims. Additionally, I know Muslims from when I grew up in Atlanta, which has on of the largest Muslim populations in the south. My sister-in-law is also a Muslim and comes from a Muslim family from Iran. Once again, in the US, women are not being stoned or forced to wear the burqa or burqini. Many of US Muslims are here precisely because of the oppression that takes place in their own countries. Travel and learn about cultures before making presumptions. As I said in my original post, I acknowledge what happens in several Muslim country’s around the world. It is deplorable. But I refuse to generalize. Amy, a willingness to understand cultures and tolerate multicultural expressions is the exact opposite of ethnocentrism. I have no problem having an informed discussion, which is precisely what this blog and Masters level program is intended for, but to say you sound ignorant would be an understatement. We live in a country where people are free to express their opinions, and your attempt to shut down mine is only thing “out of place” here.

    • April Brauda says:

      Hey Kyle,

      I read the string of responses to your post (and your responses to them) and found it quite entertaining. I find it refreshing how passionate each of you are on this issue! But I have to agree with you. I would also like to offer a different opinion that is “feminist” in nature much like many of the others. Many of you stated that women should not wear the traditional garments because it is symbolic of their oppression but who are we to dictate what they wear? And how is that any different than men dictating the garments in their past? I feel women are quite capable of choosing their own clothing to wear, rather it be yoga pants or a hijab. And yes, that might include them wearing a burkini to enjoy a nice day out while still respecting their cultural and religious beliefs.

  3. Blythe R says:

    Agree with the women here, Kyle, nice try but no offense but how about you go wear a Burkini and get back to us women…!

  4. Connor Stanton says:

    Okay so I am going to decipher both sides here and remain neutral. Overall on this issue I believe that it should be left up to the individual that is wearing the burkini themselves because ultimately they have to deal with it more than anyone else. Yes there are hygiene issues to consider that could put others in harms way, but if you are that worried about hygiene don’t swim in a public pool or go to a water park because you will be exposed to these elements whether there are people wearing burkinis or not. Therefore, if your major concern for banning burkinis is hygiene related then stay home and swim in a private pool…..or your bath tub.

  5. Bethany R says:

    First to Kyle-take a look at the pictures, these are what is being banned and yes,being called Burkinis at least in France. They aren’t some svelte surfer girl outfit or even a scuba look, lots and lots of material, basically fully clothed. So, next time you go to a pool and see someone like yourself fully clothed jump in the water I wonder what you’ll think. If you even know Muslim women that are single then they are probably not the serious, strict Muslims the post is talking about as I assume you are non-Muslim, finally please Valdosta wherever that is may be some paradise but we women get upset when men like you don’t seem to even acknowledge the oppression this type of grab and regular required clothing means-It means women are less than equal, it means they must cover-up because they are filthy lesser beings, and Connor, your suggestion if someone takes exception to someone basically being fully clothed and swimming to “swim in your bathtub” is simply ignorant.

    • Kyle Rudrow says:

      Bethany, what are you even talking about? I made it abundantly clear in my first post that I do not support the oppression of women that takes place in Muslim countries. If you would like to have an intellectual discussion about the topic, I have no problem. But I will not waste my time in YouTube-style back-and-forths where you hear what you want to hear and make assumptions about my, or others, beliefs.

  6. Samanth V and Tanya J says:

    we were just in France over the summer and actually went to Nice as one of our stops. We were told that it was hygiene issue (many wear full clothing that people complain is never washed and stinks) while we were also told that Muslim women must remain fully covered so as not to stir up evil thoughts in men. Seems like the age old sexism that women’s bodies are evil. What about men controlling themselves? Anyways Kyle and Connor we appreciate your views but you both seem to be naïve about what’s also at stake here for women everywhere. In Muslim dominated nations when men can act like animals and rape and then legally blame women as if it’s their fault then tough to see wearing Burkinis or making sure every inch of your body is covered as anything but what it is-men oppressing women.

    • Kyle Rudrow says:

      Would you rather Muslim women look, act, and dress like you? What about the Jewish kippah? Traditionally, men are required to wear the kippah at all times as a symbol of their submission to God. What about kimono’s in Japan, still worn by women in places like Kyoto? And how about the thawb? Nun gowns? Certainly, you aren’t raising a commotion about these garments. Generally, in the US, I can tell you wearing a burqa is no different than these cultural expressions. Again, that is not the case in some Muslim countries around the world, where actual oppression takes place. However, the blog post is clearly referring to US and western laws. Have you seen stoning of women or any of the oppression, as you’ve described, take place in the US? It is important not to generalize based on geo-political conflicts happening in the Arab world. That is how we come to silly and misinformed conclusions. As for the local policies of Nice, and other small localities in France, maybe — just maybe — the terrorist attack and the right-wing anti-Islam political parties that form governments in this region might be playing a role in these new laws.

  7. Chardonnay Watson says:

    The post and issues presented prove to me that sexism is still a matter that has to be debated just like racism. I think that a person should be able to wear whatever they want, or whatever fits their personal beliefs etc. Muslim women should be able to wear their traditional attire to catch some sun rays if they want. I just don’t understand how a government official feels that they have the right to make a law that rejects another’s religion.

  8. savianna says:

    I honestly don’t see anything wrong with a burkini especially if it is made of normal swim fabric. If not, I still wouldn’t mind. I use to swim in my clothes all the time. (don’t judge me haha). Not only that, I feel like hygienic/hazardous factors are the last thing that should be mentioned when it comes to public pools and beaches. I can’t even see it getting any more hazardous than it already is but because a burkini is noticeable that is what people turn towards? All the stuff that is inside those waters, people with whatever illnesses or conditions, animals, toxins and waste, i almost find it a joke to bring up a religious garment. Electronic devices shouldn’t be in the water either but we found a way right?

  9. valdostaphil says:


    Disagreeing with someone being compelled by their religion to wear a burkini doesn’t justify legal bans on them in free countries. This is a freedom issue, and I’m probably ultimately casting my lot with political libertarians on this one.

    There’s another symbol of female oppression with which we’re all extremely familiar: the brasierre. Or for that matter topless laws that only apply to women, which shouldn’t exist at all. Either it’s ok to be topless in public or it isn’t. Gender has nothing to do with anything. Period.

    And I know it’s being said that these women “don’t have a choice,” but at the end of the day, in France and the U.S., and I assume most other western democracies, they really do have a choice, which is the crux of the matter here They have the choice to convert to a different religion, or just not strictly follow all the tenets espoused by the more conservative and fundamentalist elements within their religious community. I’m a staunch bleeding heart liberal, and this is hyper-liberalism getting in its own way and counter-indicating its own cause by tripping over itself.

    So in free countries, if they want to wear them as a matter of personal conviction, they should be allowed to. No one should interfere with the free expression of religious convictions of a consenting adult in a free country, regardless of of how it offends their sensibilities. France’s ban on burkinis is no more “right” than any laws in another country such as a Iran or Saudi Arabia requiring them to be worn. I wasn’t previously aware of the bogus hygiene argument, but when you look at that argument for what it is, the real feelings of the people passing these bans are thinly veiled. No pun intended.

    • Megan P. says:


      I agree with you 100%. I have had to learn the hard-earned lesson that I cannot tell someone else that they are being oppressed. It is not right to impose MY beliefs about the legitimacy or oppression of anyone else’s culture. It’s clear to me that many people either have no learned or do not agree with this sentiment.

      These women are likely choosing to wear burkinis based on their personal preference, be it do to their religion or some other reason. We have no idea what the reason may be. But, as you stated, if we are going to go to bat to prove that women are oppressed in a culture unlike our own that we have little understanding of and have never experienced, we should also be doing just as much policing of dress codes that have racial overtones or, as you said, restrict women from showing their chests/breasts in public and don’t for men, or policies that refuse mothers the right to breastfeed in public places.

      Our energies could be better used in actual issues of oppression and/or discrimination that has merit, as opposed to this which seems to be a matter of choice and preference.

  10. Ashley K. says:

    I think there’s some overlap here between fully-clothed swimming and wearing a burkini that should be addressed. If someone is wearing their street clothes into the pool then, yes, I can see why there would be a health issue or need to be banned. But if it’s an actual burkini then it’s only worn for swimming and I don’t see any difference between that and a regular bikini except more swim material and less exposed skin (isn’t that better, public pool ickiness-wise?!)

    My best friend is Muslim and she just wears leggings and a shirt to my pool. But I don’t think she even attempts to go to a public pool because of this whole modesty versus swim wear issue. I really don’t see how a burkini is different from the long-sleeve rash guards my (very pale) daughter wears or the modest bathing suit lines that have recently gained popularity due to celebrities like Mayim Bialik promoting them because of her Jewish faith and concern with modesty. The only piece different between the two types was a lack of head covering on the modest swim wear one but I haven’t seen those talked about being banned yet.

    I have to say that I believe these bans stem from Islamophobia and simply not respecting what women want to wear to the beach, whether it’s deemed ‘too much’ or ‘too little’ according to whatever is in fashion at the time.

    Let them live and swim, sheesh, it’s too hot to argue!

  11. Ashley Crews says:

    As the years have passed and technologies have changed so have those that we see in clothing. Especially clothing associated with swimming, fishing, or anything else related to sun exposure. In more recent years we have seen an increase in the amount of swimwear that is long-sleeved, quick drying, and claims to have an SPF of 50+. In any situation: water park, pool, lake, river, or swimming hole I have never seen anyone asked to remove one of these “swim” shirts or wetsuit because of sanitation. Actually, in most of those cases people should be more concerned with the sanitation of the water itself rather than the people getting into the water.
    I’m all about women’s rights, religious freedom, and really everyone just getting along. In my own opinion we all just need to mind our business. If someone wants to swim naked, there’s a special beach. If they want to wear a wetsuit, that’s great! If they want to wear rash guard shirts, again, that’s great. Other than being absolutely judgmental; why should I care what someone else is wearing to swim? Even from a political stand point. If a women is making her own decision to wear a Berkini and no one is forcing her to make the choice, leave her and her Berkini alone.
    I find it important to note that the same people wanting these women to “take it off” are wanting other people who are not, let’s say, in the best physical shape of their lives to “cover it up.” With that being said, I believe the real problem here is the government or people in general not minding their own business. Live your lives, quit worrying about everyone else, and if you don’t like it, don’t look or leave!

  12. Alisha Fox says:

    I appear to be somewhat in the minority here but here goes….I think France has no legal cause to outlaw burkinis as the health risk statement is without merit. From what I have read these burkinis are made from typical bathing suit material so what is the difference between a rash guard or regular clothes to be honest. I see people all the time wearing t-shirts in pools and no one is saying anything. Also, if we are talking about oceans, lakes, etc…I would say you should be concerned about what else is in the water rather than a person in a burkini.

    I am not going to get into the other debate about whether these women should be required to wear full body coverage in the first place…

  13. Lindsey B Jones says:

    I do not agree with France’s ban on the burkini. I think that the hygiene concerns are an excuse and cover up for their fears of the Muslim religion. I do not see the harm in wearing a full body swimsuit if it is the same material as a normal swimsuit. People should be more concerned about the urine and feces bacteria as well as skin diseases in pools from people in regular swimsuits than the potential hygienic concerns of the burkini. I can understand where France’s fears come from but they are making an unfair generalization. Even though we as American’s see this as oppression of women, not all women of Muslim faith may see it that way. People should have the freedom to make choices (in regards to choices that do no harm to others) without fear of discrimination. To each their own…

    • Harry N. says:

      We have some parishoners who where “napkins on their heads” (just a funny term we use). I think they’re all cut from the same cloth – pun intended. At a certain point too much modesty becomes immodesty as it may be fully intended to become a show. I think that the spirit of the law in France may be more in line with this notion.

      As for the threat of violence over a dress code: I find that to be so absurdly out of line that it deserves to be met with ultimate resistance.

    • Harry Nelson says:

      I’d like to draw a comparison to the confederate flag (or what is commonly assumed to be the confederate flag). It has been deemed offensive as have these burkinis in France.

      Does anyone recall Charles Martel? Mayor of the palace and grandfather of Charlemagne? In another comparison, he defeated an uprising in the south of his medieval France. It was the Islamic force that had conquered Spain. It hits a little closer to home for these folks. Imagine that those sporting the confederate flag were actively engaged in terrorism. Would we want to ban the display for the sake of probable cause?

  14. MMiller says:

    I do not think anyone should be fully clothed in the pool, but I respect the religious practices of others. If the intent of this ban is racism, then I hope this will not come to pass.

  15. Why as a society we are so quick to generalize people from the presumptions on our cultural norms of our society. I believe that many women whom choose to wear Burkini’s are not doing it because they are forced or being oppressed. But think for 2 seconds that maybe they have pride within their religion and the traditions and practices that come along with them, just like many of us have as Christians, Catholic’s, Baptist. They have to choose the right outfit and color that they want when ordering.

    Next I do not see how wearing the clothing and material can be unsanitary as in my opinion it would be more sanitary compared to some of those whom get into public pools with a number of body parts exposed that need to be covered. If you all understand what I mean. And I do not think that its constitutional or any governmental authority to create any policies within the matter, I agree that this is just something to be used as a way to prohibit many of the practices found within the Muslim, Islamic and Jewish religious practices with very recent attacks from Isis.

    I believe this is not where the focus should be. Controlling and dictating what women are allowed to wear when getting into a body of water in the public; makes governmental officials no different from the misogynist men within their religion that many of you all say that are oppressing the women.

    • Susan Hacker says:


      Great post. I absolutely agree with your comments. While I do concede that some Muslim women may only abide by the restrictions of their religion because they feel forced by their family, there are millions of others who actively embrace it. If they didn’t, they would simply cast it aside and take on western customs. And who are we to judge the women who do feel compelled to follow these religious practices for family reasons? It is still an active choice they have made, and we should respect that.

      The western world has always been dismissive of anything non-Christian and has repeatedly attempted to impose Christianity on absolutely everyone from the time of the Crusades. France’s regulations are merely a modern version of this old story. And the argument that burkinis are unhygienic is clearly a smokescreen, especially when you consider that the prohibition includes beaches. What a few ladies choose to wear for swimming is actually going to impact the cleanliness of an OCEAN? Are they serious? Add to that the argument that many others have brought up, that these are swimming garments that are equally as hygienic as western bathing suits, and this is a weak argument at best. The fact that this is even being debated goes to show how xenophobia is still alive and well in the western world.

  16. scwoods23 says:

    I don’t see what the big deal is because in the end, it is the women who wear them that have to deal with it. I agree with the majority when I say if hygiene concerns a person then they shouldn’t be swimming in anything that is public in the first place.

  17. Yvonne Valdosta says:

    I think that women who want to be conservative while swimming or performing any other activity should be able to do so, whether their religion dictates them to or not. In terms of the burkini, I think it is subjective to determine how hygienic it is to swim in the public. If we don’t currently test the hygiene of those who currently swim in trunks, diving, scuba and surf gear or regular bathing suits, then it would be tough to assert that the burkini is not hygienic. If there is scientific evidence that can prove that the burkini harbors more bacteria or dirt, then perhaps a bathing suit can be designed to repel bacteria and dirt. The solution isn’t sufficient to just demand that the women avoid bathing in a burkini. Further, to support two photos that you posted one with America’s foremothers who wore similar bathing suits decades ago this was a thing obviously about modesty. Second, those who may appear unsightly, have scars, amputated limbs, etc would want the option to cover up more as well.

  18. Jakira Smith says:

    The freedom to dress and and express yourself as you see fit is a right to those in the “Land of the free”, however in other places in the world that is not even seen a a privilege. The burkini does present a valid concern with hygiene. One of the main reasons that swim suits and trunks are acceptable is because of the material not carrying the same amount of bacteria. With the burkini being a religious matter it is easy for people to turn their head to the situation however, there has to be a common ground that respects the religion and health matters.

  19. Timur Kahramanov says:

    In my opinion, swimming in Burkinis looks weird. Let’s forget about Muslim aspect of wearing Burkinis for a moment. And let’s imagine if some soccer players want to swim in a soccer uniform. How about to allow soccer players to swim in a soccer uniform in public pools as well? If we ban them we will discriminate them. Wearing Burkinis is a bad precedent. It’s like to allow nude people to swim in public pools where all people wear swimsuits. There are nude beaches for those people. So, why not to create separate beaches for those who want to swim in Burkinis, soccer uniform, business suits etc…

  20. Mohammed Ababtain says:

    The ban on burkinis is silly and misguided. The burkini is a swimsuit that covers everything except the hands, feet and face. Stylistically, the burkini is not all that different from the wetsuit used by scuba divers and often used by surfers and long distance swimmers. Previously, the French government had banned “the burqa” on the pretext it impedes identification and threats the public safety. However, the burkini, which covers the head and body for swimming while leaving the face uncovered, does not contravene that law. France’s Human Rights League said the burkini bans are “serious and illegal attack on numerous fundamental rights” and abuse of France’s secular principles. France and other countries have claimed that they guarantee the freedom and rights of all people regardless of their religion, race, nationality, and color. However, I think that is a clear violation of rights of people and their freedom. That is without doubt contradiction. The ban had no legal basis and was merely a “political message tinted with Islamophobia, racism and anti-religious feeling.” The burkini bans are more than just unfair and discriminatory; they are also dangerous. Because linking a swimsuit to terrorist threats, without any facts to justify such a statement, endorses false and harmful narratives about Muslim communities and risks increasing tensions between communities. Instead of encouraging all French people to live together peacefully and promoting equality and fundamental freedoms, which is the responsibility of the public authorities, the burkini ban and the revival of the endless controversy on religious symbols linked to Islam merely stigmatize practicing Muslim women, exclude them from public spaces – and sharing those spaces with their families and friends – and deprive them of their rights to autonomy, to leisure activities, to wear what they chose, and of course to practice their faith. I can’t deny there some injustice against women in some Muslim countries, but you can find that everywhere. Women, in most of the western countries, have been pictured as a product that can be bought and sold. There is no appreciation for women intellectual. It is all about the body not about the brain. And what has happened lately of sexual misconduct in Hollywood, politics and other arenas is a good example of oppression that women have suffered. Therefore, everyone must understand that “Veil” is not a matter of “enslaving women,” it is a matter of RESPECT for the women.

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